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JJ's avatar

While I agree with you, there is balance needed when partners listen to each other. Men have grown to resent their mother's, largely pushed to earn by their fathers and never got to know them, even in conservative households, women saw their mothers being treated like that and made them distrustful of their fathers, I've seen men stand around with their fathers and just disrespect their wives and daughters/sisters and so forth. The mutual respect needs to return. The roles in the house need to be more traditional. I blame feminist. What straight woman wants to be with a man that has feminine traits? At the same time they, as women need to be treated like they are appreciated and valued. It's a mess. I loathe the battle of the sexes. Let men be men and women be women, learn to problem solve together and stuff like that. You're right and I don't blame men for resenting women and I understand why but they are incapable sometimes with seeing how women grew to resent them. Hopefully men and women start to heal and see how much they need each other and communicate and grow. Porn and vice imo even going back to the types that would go to brothels and strip clubs and read Playboy and now are porn obsessed are the worst and I don't respect guys like that. I can't. They think with their thing instead of their brain and get manipulated by women whose looks will fade eventually and have no character bc they want arm candy to virtue signal to their bros. The reason why the proverbs 31 woman was able to be that way is due to having a father and mother who set the example and a husband who provided the ability to expand what she knew. Its a mess nowadays.

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The Mighty Humanzee's avatar

“Because the truth is, a strong man won’t beg for space in a culture that hates him.

He’ll go where he’s respected or he’ll build a life quietly without you.”

This is what my son and his friends are doing. They cannot stand liberal women, instead of retreating to isolation and video games they are working, hangout with the group, they are all in the same fraternity.

I’m not a fraternity guy, and my son approached me freshman year and asked if I minded if he joined. “They all have my values”. While in the 80s fraternities weren’t for me, he found a group who shared the same values socially. That was smart in his part.

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kristie sparksman aguilar's avatar

Hell yes to all this. I’m currently writing a piece called “men make me a better woman” that I hope ruffles some feathers along the same vein. Grown up time!

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Joseph L. Wiess's avatar

It's something I've noticed in the last 30 years. Women don't know what they want. What they want, but don't want to admit, is that they want a strong man who will take charge and tell them "No!" on occasion. They want someone they can depend upon, who can help them.

They also won't admit that they want to stay home and cuddle babies.

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BH's avatar

This is EXACTLY what feminists wanted. And now they complain they "can't find a man." I noticed after the Me Too bullshit that men couldn't say anything without getting attacked. If you offered to spot a woman at the health club, you were attacked. If you opened a door for a woman at the store, you were attacked. If you spoke up during a meeting at work, you were attacked for exercising male patriarchy. And on and on. What's worse, the government schools have been programming young boys for 35 years on how to behave and act. Sit still. Stop fidgeting. Stop talking. Don't play rough. Did you take your ADHD meds today?

I am so fucking over feminism. Honestly, it's taken a toll on my marriage. But, it is what it is.

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Crixcyon's avatar

The females created what they wanted and now that they see the folly of their creations, who cares? This is why you can live in society for practical reasons, but never be a part of it. Screw the cults, the movements and the hottest things.

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Paul Loewen's avatar

Supplanting logic with emotion has its consequences.

Philosophically: "The unexamined life is not worth living"

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Dr. Paul's avatar

Yes. We’ve been saying for a couple decades that “the absence of something (mature character) is not defined by what’s left operating (masculine or feminine instincts).”

Therefore there is no “toxic” anything. The word need not be paired with anything else because it is in itself a synonym for narcissism. It is its own separate Thai common and possible for any human of any description who ever lived.

And narcissism is simply the absence of mature character.

There is no toxic anything except in a bully’s insult on a playground. And the bully is a narcissist, themselves.

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